How can i burn songs that are copy right protected

planetmarz5 · Joined: 01 Feb 2008 Posts: 7

I have songs that i have purchased from sonicstage that are copy right protected. which means: i have music that I can only listen to while on my computer (i cant burn them to my CD).

Is there a software that can overide this problem?

Brien · Posted: Fri Feb 01, 2008 11:43 pm Post subject:

Copyright protection does not inhibit you from burning the tunes to another medium. What Sonicstage (Sony) has is copy restriction.

Not only will you be hard pressed to get around these several different forms of protection, it violates your EULA and TOS with the use of this content.

"Copy restriction is provided not by any one feature, but by a group of design features and software limitations. The main features being:

1. The software strictly enforces Digital Rights Management through its use of OpenMG. SonicStage ties the DRM license of each track to the hardware of the computer from which it has been transferred. SonicStage will not allow transfer of tracks from the player to another computer. It is possible, however, to backup "My Library" and import it into another installation of SonicStage on a different computer.
2. Music files have to be "wrapped" by Sony software in order to be played on a Sony music player. Sony has not introduced drag and drop support for music files. Although it is possible to load files directly onto a Sony player without using SonicStage, it is not possible to play music files loaded this way. Neither is it possible in most cases to transfer music files back to a PC. (all versions prior to 3.4)
3. The program does not generally convert OMG/OMA files to MP3 or WAV.
4. The program only encrypts in omg format, not mp3. The program encrypts any audio files imported into it in omg format, including audio files that are not legally downloaded, or illegally copied music.
5. The program lacks a true import album feature for WAV and MP3 files. The program imports tracks as is. Imported files cannot be grouped into an album with artist, title and tracknumber fields assigned at the time of import. This has to be done before or after import.
6. When WAV tracks are imported, they remain linked to their wav source file and the track can only be edited for as long as the WAV source file remains on the computer. This makes it difficult to use SonicStage to edit CDs that have been ripped with another program.
7. Because of these security features there are limitations when using the program in Windows XP. Only users with administrator accounts can transfer tracks from SonicStage to Sony's devices."

Buy the CD's, its just easier.

planetmarz5 · Joined: 01 Feb 2008 Posts: 7

1 more thing: you also mentioned "only users with admin accounts can transfer tracks from Sonic stage to sony devices." Please tell me how that is done when using a NWZA816 sony model. -I'm desperate, please help! Crying or Very sad

the audiophile · Posted: Thu Feb 07, 2008 1:18 pm Post subject:

If you've got the time there is a way.
If you have a recording program, e.g. Sound Forge,
Audacity etc. start it up then play the song as normal
in it's own program.
1: Start up recording prog.
2: Select the recording input, in this case "what you hear"
3: Start player prog and select tune to record.
4: Start recorder.
5: Start playing tune.
I use Sound Forge with excellent results - if there's
any degredation in quality I can't pick it.
6: Stop recording at end of tune and save as a wav file.
7: Top'n'tail the recorded tune and save. Normalise if needed.
The tunes can then be burned to CD.
As I said you need time 'cos it has to be done in real-time.
Best of all it's free.
If you don't have a recording program check out this site.
Audacity's a good one to start with. Cheers.

mcdonaldold1 · Joined: 16 Feb 2008 Posts: 2

Golly gosh..isn't that stealing?

the audiophile · Posted: Sat Jun 21, 2008 11:17 pm Post subject:

Yes it is stealing if you give legally purchased/downloaded music
to someone else.
This form of copy restriction limits playback to the pc.
Copyright (rightly) protects the artist/record company but
in my view are indirectly telling you where you can and can't
play or listen to it.
Planetmarz5 would like to listen to it on the way to work.
The method I described would lose an inaudible amount of
quality but should not detract from the listening aspect.
If I buy a cd I can play it on any player that's handy even if
it has copy protection. How many cd's would be sold if
playback was stricktly limited to one player?
For more of my views on the subject go to this link-
http://www.hitsquad.com/vocal/viewtopic.php?t=1777

Brien · Posted: Sun Jun 22, 2008 12:14 am Post subject:

the audiophile wrote:

Yes it is stealing

Entitlement to "hard copy" is an obsolete point of reference.
As the Sony folks explain, you can do anything you want with what you buy as a digital download as long as it is used on the equipment they provide with this service.

"Only users with administrator accounts can transfer tracks from SonicStage to Sony's devices"

There's your hard copy.

As to recording the sound while it is playing...that is another one of the built in restrictions.

the audiophile · Posted: Mon Jun 23, 2008 2:38 am Post subject:

Still got a couple of questions.
Just had a look on C-Net and Sonicstage
claims that you can burn to cd for your own use. (home or car)
Only some of the music is drm protected therefore you can not burn
those particular tracks as I understand it.

"as long as it is used on the equipment they provide with this service"
Does that mean if I use a different brand cd player in my car it won't work?
If someone gives me a non Sony mp3 player for Christmas I
can't transfer the the songs.

"Only users with administrator accounts can transfer tracks from SonicStage to Sony's devices"
I own and am the sole user of my computor. Am I the "administrator"
by default or does it have to be set up as a separate operation?

I guess the bottom line I am trying to get at is freedom of choice.
The freedom to play music when, where and on what I choose.
On the one hand the artist is protecting his/her income. No problem with that.
On the other though it restricts the purchaser as to what they can
or can't do with it.
To buy or not to buy? It's a user choice and up to the individual.

Theory.
1:"As to recording the sound while it is playing"
2: Is sonicstage so invasive of the system that it changes it's operation?
When a cd is inserted in a drive the player reads information before
the music info which tells it the number and length of tracks as well as
if the track/s are copy protected or not.
This info is not a sound file.
To do a direct copy eg disk to disk I would assume can't be done because
all the information is digital.
What I am suggesting is recording a "sound" while it is playing not a
string of digital information. (see 2).
I can't try it 'cos I don't have any copy protected disks.

Brien · Posted: Mon Jun 23, 2008 3:03 am Post subject:

Seems that corporations like Sony, et. al do what they do to stop people that suggest they do what you suggest they do :)

I do not care about copyright law as it applies to these types of situations. Artists may open their collective mouth but lawyers are pulling the jaw string.

How many ways can a person rip, rob or legally record something that is in their possession that was legally purchased in one form or the other is an argument that is slowly dieing away.

The holes are being filled and corporate is making every attempt to stop people from being able to do what you suggest that they do.

It's always gonna be something boss.

Back in the Napster hayday, when rock was free, you could record directly off the computer. Just like people did back last century with radio broadcast. It isn't a new concept.

It is now, a controllable concept :)

And if a dollar is to made or lost due to the proliferation of these kinds of endeavors...corporate will close the hatch.

Then some hack will kick it in! But as that time comes near the notion that a "law" is being broken, often on an International level, will continue to be subliminally implanted into your cortex.

Brien

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